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Title

If Mildred Lisette Norman is worth a biographical entry, this might be a detail. Wetman 13:28, 9 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I think Wetman implies a switch of title. I disagree that current evidence supports this.

I knew someone who knew her daily-life name (MLN) when she was active as PP, but my friend considered that rare enuf to remark on it: PP made a point of being known only as PP, in order (my impression was) to make the statement "my individuality is insignificant to my message; my significance is that if i can do this without being a big-time activist, anyone can speak out for peace if they care enough to do so, and anyone who isn't should be asking themself what's keeping them from caring enough".

PP got press coverage, i think local mainstream press, when she was "walking for peace" in a given area, during Viet war. (My recollection was that she would walk many tens of miles from town to town in the course of a bout of "walking for peace".) I have never heard of her book; that doesn't imply she is unworthy of listing as MLN, but:

IMO she may deserve listing as PP on the basis of past press coverage;
If MLN deserves listing, someone needs to find evidence of it. (I assume no one knows the MLN name except from personal contact, reading a little known book, or noticing her obit (i did) and making note of the name MLN (i didn't).)

IMO, listing as MLN is appropriate only if her writing is well enuf known to serve as a basis for listing her; in that case, make PP the redir to MLN. Otherwise, make "MLN" text (not link) in PP article, or possibly delete. --Jerzy 17:35, 2004 Jan 2 (UTC)

Birth Name

My term "earlier name" reflected my ignorance of whether MLN is a married name. If we have evidence it wasn't, i suggest it be mentioned here on Talk:Peace Pilgrim --Jerzy 19:37, 2004 Jan 3 (UTC)

This needs fleshing out

Speaking as someone who is completely ignorant of this person and her actions and her importance, this article is much too sketchy to be of much use. I hope to learn more as this page grows. Paul, in Saudi 17:41, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In progress. —Viriditas | Talk 23:24, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs a complete rewrite. —Viriditas | Talk 01:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spiritual Teacher & Writer

More than anything, she was a spiritual teacher and spiritual writer/author. This was even a larger role than her activism. She described herself this way as well in her writings. This should be in the opening of the article.64.134.223.188 (talk) 03:06, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How many times across the US?

Opening paragraph: She also walked across the United States at least eight times, and likely more than 20 times.
Later in the article (no source): At the time of her death, she was crossing the United States for the seventh time.
Which is correct? Banaticus (talk) 18:43, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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forrest gump

any info/news/etc about the Peace Pilgram being the inspiration for the section in the movie film "Forrest Gump", when he decided to run across the USA ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa (talk • contribs) 11:02, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of vegetarian category

@Sundayclose

Peace Pilgrim was a well known vegetarian activist, I would like to point out the word "vegetarian activist" is currently in the direct lead for the Wikipedia article as of 19/01/2023, and this has been on the article since 2005 (!) [1]. I merely added the vegetarianism activist category because the lead of her article says "vegetarian activist". As said, that information is still in the direct lead and has been there since 2005. So you are happy to leave that information in the lead, but remove a category for the same thing? Makes no sense.

It's not hard to find sources that Pilgrim was a vegetarian, i.e. [2], [3], [4]. There are sources calling her a "vegetarian activist" [5].

From her published biography, "I have extended my pacifism to include non-harming of creatures as well as non-harming of human beings. Therefore for many years I have not eaten flesh— not meat, fowl, or fish. I also don’t use furs or feathers, leather or bone. I realize that some people are vegetarians merely for health reasons, and are not necessarily opposed to war. Some people may miss the eating of flesh, but I do not." (Peace Pilgrim: Her Life and Work, page 113) [6].

You only need to do a few minutes research to see I am right about this. Psychologist Guy (talk) 01:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In regard to this edit [7] "No indication in her article that she was vegan or vegetarian", not true because as stated above it says it directly in the lead. I never added the "vegetarianism" template, I agree that should be removed. Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:02, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additional reference from the National Women's History Alliance [8] "Peace Pilgrim was a non-denominational spiritual leader, pacifist, and vegetarian activist." Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:34, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]