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The operative policy is WP:COMMONNAME. Quoting User:Zzzs: we should not and will not change the article title based on arguments like "Polish scientists should be recognised!" and "The French had enough scientists!". Remsense ‥ 论23:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I think it should be Marie Skłodowska-Curie. This choice would satisfy everyone, without omitting an important part of her identity, one that some people are obsessed to hide under many excuses (hard to pronounce, not necessary, was french etc.) Awhileo (talk) 13:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just want you guys to know that we should not and will not change the article title based on arguments like "Polish scientists should be recognised!" and "The French had enough scientists!" against policies and guidelines like WP:COMMONNAME. ZZZ'S15:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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she was Polish, don’t just type her birth last name, when she married Pierre Curie she insisted on being called Maria SKŁODOWSKA-Curie, please fix it or i’ll do it myself Nikolairaskolnikov (talk) 12:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, this has also been discussed repeatedly, and would require a consensus developed here AS WELL AS reliable sources. PianoDan (talk) 18:18, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to remind about this issue. As for the sources, my best bet at the moment would be the PWN Encyclopedia[1], I don't think she ever mentioned it outright, that she wanted to be addressed by her full name because of her heritage, but there are a lot of letters, in which she describes her attitude towards her homeland[2]. Other that that, I think the sole fact that her signature often contained her full name[3], and the fact that she named an element after Poland should be indicative enough. 2A02:A31B:2081:8D80:A045:4247:3827:2312 (talk) 02:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Then cite sources for why she should be called Marie Curie. Marie Curie is clearly not the consensus option for her name. Maria Skłodowska-Curie is at least not hiding her identity and nationality. Essasitopapopito (talk) 12:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dont say "know as Marie Curie" she is must and will be know as Marie Skłodowska-Curie, thats her name. But when you dont put her full name into the title, you make her know in her husbands name, not her. Change that. Chloreenek (talk) 19:08, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"must and will be known as" are not our business - Wikipedia is not an attempt to shape the way things are discussed or to predict the future. We reflect how things are discussed in reliable sources: see WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. I agree with you that it would be better if she wasn't associated with her husband's name, but that's not the test here.
As for "is...known as", I just don't know that that's true. It seems that the vast majority of sources call her Marie Curie, and that this is how she is discussed in media and everyday conversation most of the time. If you want to see the article changed, you will need to make a case that she is more often referred to as "Marie Skłodowska-Curie" than as "Marie Curie" in reliable sources. AntiDionysius (talk) 19:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With all respect but even Sklodowska Curie used sign 'Maria Sklodowska Curie' not 'Maria Curie' and many times she says that she's polish scientist. This is really disrespectful for the one of the greatest womans in history of science 92.31.69.227 (talk) 10:11, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, I agree with you that it would be better to refer to her that way. But Wikipedia does not write what I think would be best, Wikipedia writes what most reliable sources say. AntiDionysius (talk) 11:51, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
1. In Nobel Prize documents she is called "Maria Skłodowska Curie" - [4]
That's all true, but simply irrelevant for how we choose the titles for articles, as I already explained to you below. Remsense ‥ 论21:21, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So you think that a Polish woman marrying a French man automatically becomes French? Got it. Now stop disrespecting the Polish nation and her own wishes and change the title according to her legal name. She chose to be Polish and we cannot show her false name in a wikipedia title. This seriously should not be an argument. Essasitopapopito (talk) 10:21, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Considering the volume of repetitive inquiries about the article title, should we put in place one of those flashy editnotices to inform of the current consensus? As a page mover, I can make it, if there is consensus for that. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH)22:59, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The amount of fights suggests that there is no consensus. I would suggest against that for this moment, as cementing the title as is, would shape the discourse and her future recognition along a very western, british and french perspective and would not account for her recognition in her country of origin and her own wishes. Maciej Kisling (talk) 07:15, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You'd be wrong: policy is extraordinarily clear, and just because there are several editors who are not familiar with what policy says or do not care, does not mean there is a lack of consensus regarding how it applies. You'd know that if you read WP:Consensus. Remsense ‥ 论02:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]