Talk:Gloria Vanderbilt

New Picture

We need a more up-to-date picture of Gloria Vanderbilt in this article. Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 02:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what picture you're referring to, but the 1958 Van Vechten picture of her seems fine to me, and a very nice picture. She's been notable throughout her whole life so there is no good argument for putting a picture of her from, say, the 1970s because she was more "notable" then, because she really wasn't any more notable then than she was in the 30s (custody trial), 40s through 60s (known for being a socialite and married to/ dating notable men), 70s (designer jeans era), 80s and beyond (author, artist, etc.) TheBlinkster (talk) 18:57, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

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Possible error

This article says Ms. Vanderbilt and Leopold Stokowski divorced in 1955. I think that is in error. In 1962 I developed a friendship with a family who later introduced me to the two sons from the Vanderbilt and Stokowski marriage, born 1950 and 1952, who were both friends of two boys who were roughly the same age as the Stokowski boys. The Stokowski boys would visit the family I knew as overnight guests traveling, I think, without their parents. In any case I never met Ms. Vanderbilt or Mr. Stokowski and neither was in evidence when their boys were around me. I had very little interaction with the Stokowski boys but the younger one would sometimes come looking for me to borrow my bicycle so the two boys (Stokowski and the younger boy in the family I knew) could go riding together. Keep in mind, I was a young adult at the time. The explanation I was given was that the parents in the family I knew well had become friends of the Stokowskis while traveling home from Europe on an ocean liner. At the time I understood that shipboard meeting to have been a recent event at the time I knew them, which would not be possible if the couple divorced in 1955, as this article states. I also understood the boys in both families were traveling with their parents when the two sets of parents first met and had begun their friendships on board the ship. Perhaps I simply misunderstood the situation at the time but this was my specific misunderstanding back then. If you have verification either way, I would appreciate hearing it. --Frog one (talk) 23:55, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Well, she remarried in 1956. Are you claiming she was a bigamist? 2600:1700:BC01:9B0:D1A3:A5BD:35D4:88DE (talk) 23:12, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Apparently they were divorced in 1955. In the book "The Mystery of Leopold Stokowski" By William Ander Smith, indicates Stokowski was divorced from Gloria Vanderbilt in 1955. Stokowski.org states they were divorced October, 1955. Additionally there are numerous newspaper articles available on line covering Vanderbilt's marriage to Sidney Lumet in 1956. cbs527 11:36, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Another error, which I do not know how to fix: Article says that her SON by Leopold Stokowski - "Leopold Stanislaus "Stan" Stokowski (born August 22, 1950). Married twice: firstly, Olga Samaroff, an American Concert Pianist." NO, it was the father LS who married Olga, who died in 1948. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CFA2:6980:C11D:445:458E:E373 (talk) 17:44, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Expanded lede

I expanded the lede of this article since the lede is supposed to give an overview of all the major points in the article. The custody trial was huge news in its day, has been the subject of at least 2 books and one film, and makes up a large portion of the article, yet the lede just said she was a socialite known for developing designer jeans (as well as a Vanderbilt and Anderson Cooper's mom). The trial needs to be in the lede, obviously. TheBlinkster (talk) 18:59, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

MATH

If $5 million is $68.3 million today how is $4 million over $67 million today? The first four million is worth 67 million and the last million is worth less than 1.7 million? Not possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.98.15 (talk) 14:24, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Yep, something is wrong there. I've deleted the info for now, which is just trivia, anyway. Grandpallama (talk) 12:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

I know this is a late response, but the value of money fluctuates with inflation and deflation which changes on a whim. Wars, politics, etc can change the value of money. Inflation occurs when the prices of goods and services rise, while deflation occurs when those prices decrease. The government can "print" more money and make the dollar worth less. So, it is possible the values change from year to year. As far as it being trivial, I think having the correct value based on a modern time is important as $5 million in today's world is a whole lot less than $71 million. @Grandpallama: P37307 (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@P37307: I'm aware of the fluctuations in the absolute value of cash, but that wasn't the point of the question, which uncovered a very basic math error and suggested a more solid source and better number was needed. Grandpallama (talk) 13:10, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Today's value vs. another time is controlled by the Wikipedia's inflation template. {{Inflation|index|value|start_year}}. More info is at Template:Inflation. That math error probably should be brought up on the inflation templates talk page, if it hasn't already, now in retrospect. Also, I wasn't directly targeting what you knew or didn't know but adding to the conversation that the unsigned editor posted above as this page became newsworthy again with her death as I added the inflation info back of the article for a broader understanding to the value of the trustfund now vs then. Just know I wasn't targeting anyone's knowledge specifically. P37307 (talk) 14:21, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Nanny played "a tumultuous part"?

The article's 'Early life' section states that during Vanderbilt's travels with her mother "They were accompanied by a beloved nanny—Emma Sullivan Kieslich, whom young Gloria had named "Dodo"—who would play a tumultuous part in the child's life", but then doesn't say anything else about the nanny. Does the reference to her need deleting, or should the "tumultuous part" instead be explained? JezGrove (talk) 11:06, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Estate

So what happened to all her money? I understand that the $200 million was an estimate, but off by $198.5 million? That seems pretty fishy. 2600:1700:BC01:9B0:D1A3:A5BD:35D4:88DE (talk) 23:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)