Talk:Cesar Chavez

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2020

Change "Alaya" to "Ayala" under 'Growing success: 1966–1967' heading, second paragraph, third sentence, and add hyperlink to that wikipedia article; "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_of_Ayala". Agsilver98 (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:24, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Hyperlinks

All locations listed in the article appear to have hyperlinks attached to them except "California" and "Los Angeles", every city/place except these two. This isn't fair and makes it seem that someone is striking out at these locations by not attaching hyperlinks when every other destination/locale has a hyperlink. In the name of fairness and un-biasedness, put the locations "Los Angeles" and "California" in hyperlinks too. It seems suspicious that they were somehow forgotten to be hyperlinked. They are locations too and deserve the same fair treatment as other places listed in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:1A83:5E00:F56D:414E:2486:F089 (talk) 05:26, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2020

Change the word "schisms" to "dissension" due to unusual wording. 2601:1C0:6781:5670:F4AB:9455:9154:DBA7 (talk) 13:50, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: The use of the word "schism" implies division, break or splitting, which is different from "dissent" (which does not explicitly imply division). Given the texts are describing divisions with the movements founded by Chavez, it is appropriate. Goldsztajn (talk) 22:14, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

speaking English

Given that Spanish was forbidden at Laguna Dam School in 1933 when Cesario was six, by 1942 when he was 15 would Cesar have been basically fluent in English at that point? WakandaQT (talk) 14:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2021

Change "was an American socialist, labor leader, community organizer, businessman, and Latino American civil rights activist." to "was an American labor leader, community organizer, businessman, and Latino American civil rights activist." whoever originally changed it to say he's a socialist did so for political reasons to mislead people into believing that Joe biden added the bust of a "socialist" to the White house. Adakom (talk) 13:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

 Done – I've reverted the recent addition to the lead sentence, as it isn't supported by the body of the article.--Trystan (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2021

Is "leftist" considered a politically-charged term? If so, possibly consider changing occurrences of "leftist" to a more neutral term - maybe Left-wing (which is the term used by the article that "leftist politics" links to) or similar? DubiousPedantry (talk) 03:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Bestagon ⬡ 22:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The picture of Gandhi should be removed

He never met Gandhi, but was simply influenced by him. Adding a picture of Gandhi in response to that is 'children's booking' this section on a very important leader and organizer. He was influenced only to the extent of the few books he read on him. Gandhi's picture should not precedence over any other possible major influence here, starting with family and ending with Ross and the Father, the actual examples of influences that directly affected him, not this six parts of Kevin Bacon madness people use to show familiar people they like nonsense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.56.178.153 (talk) 05:35, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Political Views Section includes a Blatant Massaging of History to Fit a Modern Narrative

"His point in doing so was not necessarily to proselytise, but to use the socio-political potential of Christianity for his own campaigns"

This is completely non-sense. I understand some 'educated person' wrote it in a book, but it is still a conclusory opinion that does not bear on actual facts. This person completely separates the Roman-Cath Chavez from his roots to push a modern political narrative. Just because Chavez didn't explicitly say it, doesn't mean you can then decide what he actually meant. If this is true, Ancient Aliens is now 100% facts. 'Well, the Egyptians never said that Aliens did not build the pyramids, so it is a pretty likely possibility, who cares about the most likely senario when a narrative must be pushed.

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2021

Please Change: " he launched an insurance scheme" to: " he launched an insurance group" Joan Winters (talk) 12:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. The word "scheme" is supported by reliable sources. Bestagon ⬡ 22:29, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

This article should be moved to "César Chávez"

This article should be moved from "Cesar Chavez" to "César Chávez" to properly reflect the diacritics present in Chávez's name. Folohsor (talk) 03:52, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done The problem is that the Cesar Chavez foundation doesn't use them and more importantly neither did Cesar Chavez himself as can be seen in all his signatures. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:19, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2021

Under "End of the Grape Strike: 1969–1970" Change "In July 1979, the Delano growers agreed to negotiate." to "In July 1969, the Delano growers agreed to negotiate." Incorrect year SilverSnak (talk) 23:35, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 16:14, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Lead

The entire part that says, "A controversial figure, UFW critics raised concerns about Chavez's autocratic control of the union, the purges of those he deemed disloyal, and the personality cult built around him, while farm-owners considered him a communist subversive." Is pure opinion with NO CITATION and should be removed. ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suepera (talk • contribs) 16:23, January 13, 2022 (UTC)

@Suepera:, please read WP:LEADCITE, which says that things in the lead of an article generally don't need to be cited, as long as they are cited in the article body. Claims about autocratic control and purges are included in Cesar Chavez#On organization and leadership and are properly sourced there. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 September 2022

In section "Childhood: 1927–1945" there is problematic wording in the second sentence: "a Mexican who had crossed into Texas in 1898." Use of the term "a Mexican" without a word after "Mexican" is considered racist by Mexican/Mexican American people. The rest of the sentence generally reads that way as well or can be as many are not aware people could and did come and go between the two countries uncontrolled until the Immigration Acts of 1917, 1921, and 1924. https://www.jstor.org/stable/24550692

Use of the "crossed into" phrasing has the connotation that it's entering the country without permission/surreptitiously etc. Suggested re-wording: "who migrated from Mexico to Texas in 1898."

Same with: "Born in Ascensión, Chihuahua, she had crossed into the U.S. with her mother as a baby." Suggested re-wording: "Born in Ascensión, Chihuahua, she migrated to the U.S. with her mother as a baby."

synergy (talk) 17:03, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Elizium23 (talk) 17:25, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

References

Ghandi

I was wondering why there is a picture of Ghandi. It doesn't seem to directly relate to Chavez, despite having influenced his life.

Ptreehlknie (talk) 21:42, 1 February 2023 (UTC) t

It does seem out of place. Going to remove it. Jjazz76 (talk) 18:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2023

Cesar Chavez Day is a U.S. federal commemorative holiday, proclaimed by President Barack Obama in 2014. Your page on Cesar Chavez states it is only celebrated officially in certain states. This is incorrect it has been a Federal holiday since 2014 please edit this it is a shame to our nation that you have this so wrong on the entry for Cesar Chavez

Cesar Chavez Day is a U.S. federal commemorative holiday, proclaimed by President Barack Obama in 2014.  Your page on Cesar Chavez states it is only celebrated officially in certain states. This is incorrect it has been a Federal holiday since 2014 please edit this it is a shame to our nation that you have this so wrong on the entry for Cesar Chavez Andreaamericangirl (talk) 08:57, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 09:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2023

Request to replace Cesar Chavez's designation as "Spanish" with "Latino" since Mr. Chavez is not from Spain or of Spanish origin. 2601:5C9:4200:1F90:9D94:7C57:D2C5:1D54 (talk) 18:10, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: The only references to "Spanish" in this article are to of the Spanish language. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:16, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2023

Bbcbews09 (talk) 14:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

hi

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thank you

BBC news

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. CMacMillan (talk) 14:28, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

lede photo

Wouldn't this be better? It's in color.

Caption

Anonymous-232 (talk) 06:10, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Only because it's in color. Otherwise it is a far inferior pic. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:16, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Overreliance on single source.

This article depends almost entirely on two secondary sources, Pawel and Bruns (especially Pawel), rather than primary sources. At minimum the footnotes could be reduced and combined rather than a footnote in many cases after each sentence, but actually the article should use primary sources and perhaps a wider range of sources, especially as the portrayal of Chávez as a person is generally negative in this entry? 201.141.36.213 (talk) 20:34, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 June 2024

"a shrine on the back of his station waggon" - wagon is the correct spelling 68.202.117.200 (talk) 20:14, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done Tollens (talk) 20:36, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

cousin manual chavez

why is no data here on him, Cesar called him Brother, very important in UFW. obit was in the news 1999 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.130.142.29 (talk) 04:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

He's mentioned in the article; search it for "cousin". Graham87 (talk) 15:27, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2024

In early childhood it says, he was "One of six children" even though he only had 2 brothers and and 2 sisters. Instead it should read, he was "One of five children" CJCPeditor (talk) 13:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done RudolfRed (talk) 17:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)