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These should all be converted to "HDMS", but the redirs from "KDM" are convenient. Not obvious from usage seen on the net whether "P550" or "P 550" is preferred for pennants, but "P 550" seems to have a slight edge when you filter out WP-derived pages. Stan 23:51, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Vessel list

I have just tried dividing the vessel list into squadrons. However, the Flyvefisken class vessels seem to be in service with both the 2. and 3. squadron, and I don't know how they are divided (I've just put them all under the 2. for now). Also, I do not know which squadron those under "Other" are in. κаллэмакс 14:25, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The vessels of Flyvefisken-class are divided into either squadron (formerly 2. and 3., nowadays 1. and 2.) after their configuration. The ships are multi-pourpose-shifting-role ships, that can change from i.e. mine counter meassure units to missile platform units in less than 12 hours. This is due to the flexible container module system (hence the Standard Flexible designation). So it is not the platform (the vessel) itself that is assigned to a squadron, but the vessels role.

--Hebster 08:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Danish Navy during Second Schleswig War

The following paragraph seems to not be in accordance with the documented facts about the Danish navy at the time :

"In the Second Schleswig War (1864), the navy was still relatively small and old-fashioned. Only a few steam vessels were at hand and these had a large impact on the war. As a result, it was considered necessary for the navy to be modernised"

This seem like an odd statement considering the ship lists of the time indicate no fewer than 34 steamdriven vessels out of a total fleet of 74. Furthemore these 34 vessel would have constituted the vast majority of the navy's large fighting ships and atleast five of those were armored/ ironclad, with one being a turreted monitor.

Source: http://www.navalhistory.dk/English/Naval_Lists/Periods/1864.htm

The above paragraph should be rewritten to reflect the actual status of the Danish navy in 1864, as a small but thoroughly modern fighting force. At the very least it should be considered for deletion.--Mkpoulsen (talk) 00:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Copenhagenization

he Copenhagenization section here states that this "is generally accepted as the first terror bombardment by a fleet in which the terrorising of civilians was used to gain a political goal"; the source given is a book^[1] by Thomas Munch-Petersen

There’s no page number given, so whether it actually says that (or whether someone has just snuck that in) is anybody's guess, but if it does it’s hardly reliable; this wasn’t even the first bombardment of Copenhagen, let alone the first ever (viz here, and here) In fact bombarding a city to force its surrender would have been a regular feature of any of the couple of hundred sieges in the Modern or early Modern era (prior to 1807) listed here: To mention just two, where a bombardment of the city, or the threat of it, is specifically mentioned, try Magdeburg (a few months previously), or Savannah, (in the last war but one). Or this one, or the one illustrated, where it was the Danes doing the bombarding.
So I’ve deleted it. I trust everyone is OK with that. Moonraker12 (talk) 11:52, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The deletion is OK by me. The pages in the book Defying Napoleon are 193 - 199 for the tactical, strategic and political reasoning behind the mode of attack. Page 202 opines that "it suited the Danes (not to mention Napoleon .. .. ) in their propaganda after the event to exaggerate the extent of the rocket bombardment". The bombardment was primarily Army, rather than Navy, in origin so the deleted sentence falls on that count as well. OK? Viking1808 (talk) 14:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Viking1808:: Thank you for the confirmation: Regards, Moonraker12 (talk) 23:50, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ Defying Napoleon: How Britain Bombarded Copenhagen and Seized the Danish Fleet in 1807 (07 edition (13 Mar 2007) ed.). The History Press Ltd. ISBN 978-0-7509-4279-9.

[1] Defying Napoleon: How Britain Bombarded Copenhagen and Seized the Danish Fleet in 1807 (07 edition (13 Mar 2007) ed.). The History Press Ltd. ISBN 978-0-7509-4279-9.

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