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Adding popular interview with Finkelstein to external links or videos section

September 2020 interview with Finkelstein has over 16k views on youTube and more views on the interviewers website. The interview is titled "How true academic freedom creates intellectual conflict" Finkelstein talks about his career and why he struggled to conform to academia.

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Interview with Norman Finkelstein, "How True Academic Freedom Creates Intellectual Conflict" September 2020

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Norman Finkelstein

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Result: Delisted. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A controversial figure; difficult to write a GA about. Article has not been maintained to standards since 2007:

The lead dedicates no time to his views or academic work, but an entire paragraph to two incidents in 2007/2008
Contains overly long quotes throughout the article. Many from Finkelstein himself, giving me some NPOV concerns
One cn tag.
Too many external links. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, not great. There are a huge number of quotes sourced directly to Finkelstein himself, making them primary with no real sense of the appropriate weight for the extracts established in secondary sources. A large volume of material is self-published on his personal website. To produce a B-class article, let alone a GA status article, this page would basically need to be half-scrapped and rewritten from scratch. Like many GAs listed in 2007, it is not worthy of the status. Definitely one for delisting. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Proposed minor edit: Finkelstein's dissertation and From Time Immemorial

The current version of this article states that "Finkelstein's doctoral thesis examined the claims made in Joan Peters's From Time Immemorial".

This is not correct. A digitized version of Finkelstein's dissertation (Norman G. Finkelstein, "From the Jewish Question to the Jewish State: An Essay on the Theory of Zionism" (PhD dissertation: Princeton, 1988)) is now available from ProQuest: Peters's book does not even appear in its bibliography (which includes every title cited in his notes.)

Finkelstein's critique of FTI was a side project. It was published first as an article in the journal In These Times, and then as a chapter in the book Blaming the Victims.

This passage in the article should be edited to read: "While still a graduate student at Princeton, Finkelstein published a critique of the claims made in Joan Peters's From Time Immemorial".

Update: I see that I neglected to sign and date this proposal. --Cliodule (talk) 12:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't anybody concerned that this article includes an obvious factual error?

I can't make this change myself. The article is under extended confirmed protection, and I have made only 261 edits. Cliodule (talk) 12:30, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks for your input. Earlier in the article, it clearly states that the dissertation was on the theory of Zionism. I was wary of citing the subject's own works to back up your edit request, so I found another source from NYU. Cheers. StonyBrook _babble 16:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Cliodule (talk) 11:55, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]